So how can we tell who is real, and whose a fake? I think everybody questions this, now and then. If you don’t you could be making a big mistake. Just by trusting, someone.
Lets face it, though, Christians are NOT perfect. But we need wisdom. We need to know the will of the Lord. We must seek Him. There is a lost world out there, and we need to act like Christ would. And not like the world. Or we will not be effective, in winning the lost, to Christ.
And so as I write, this, I pray, to bring perspective, but not judgement. Or to make anyone feel bad especially if they have made judgements about someone. But there is a dilemma. The dilemma, between the wolf in sheep’s clothing, and the Anointed one. How can we tell who is who? What kind of fruit, should they display, so we can have discernment?
And I use the word discernment, because understanding from Gods perspective, is what we need. Not judgement. Because our ways, are not always Gods ways.
Judging, speaking, without, knowing real truth, with a negative slant, is judging to me. Because one is making a “ruling” to sway, someone else, and their thoughts. It is meant to change someones mind about another person. It is meant, to persuade. That what they are saying is right, correct, and they are wrong. Or if not wrong, they don’t know, the real truth. They are implying that they know…. the “real truth”. So thats why they have to talk about it. Hmmm.
I have been in ministry, for many years, and I have heard, many people, bring up another persons name, a pastor, or just a person, and they feel like they have to bring their thoughts, about that person.
And may I just stop here, and say here in love, when people do that, I do get a red flag, and I need God’s wisdom. I also, try to also look at that person, with love, and not judgement. That is bringing me this information.
Could it be a characteristic of the devil? To gossip, in this? And I am not calling that person a devil. Because we do not wrestle with flesh, and blood, but with principlalities in high places. Ephesians 6:11-12. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the “rulers” of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Theres that word again. “Rulers” trying to rule.
So, the devil will use someone, unknowingly, because they are unaware of the enemies tactics. Or do they? But it reminds me, and I say this, because it has happened to me, as well, where people, have talked about me, and I know, that the devil, is the accuser of the brethren.
Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
But I love this scripture, after it; And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Revelation 12:11. A good place, to remind you, and me, we need to always, daily, apply the blood of Jesus, to defeat the enemy, along with repentance. Humbleness, before the Lord, so He can build that hedge of protection around us. Remember Moses, applied the blood, and God made a way, for their passover.
My perspective is this, and I am not putting my head in the sand, but when I hear a negative report about someone, I put my guard on. Because it is not my place to judge that person, and I say so. So, then I get the person, on edge, and even offended, because they wanted to share the details. And I don’t want to hear it……
I look at it this way, whether, it is true or not, its not my place to judge someone. And when I usually hear it, it is about a high profile minister, or pastor, who has a lot of notoriety.
It is sad, but sometimes, other pastors, question the fruit? When the Holy spirit is evident. They call them phonies. Why? Because God is using them? They judge them. Again wrong. We should all be seeking the Holy Spirit. But thats why churches, are so different. Because everyone, wants to pick and choose, instead of letting God, decide, in His house.
But, since, I don’t want to be a hypocrite in this, I have to be honest. That the prosperity pastors, do get on my nerves. Those who always ask for money. Those who do not present the Salvation message, but are always asking for money. Or their message, is about prosperity. Even here again, though, I want to be careful. Not to judge them, or to say anything about them. Because God can change them.
I wrote in my last post, I do not want to limit God. And I pray, that Pastors would not do that either. But, even if your not comfortable with the Holy Spirit, don’t knock some other pastor, who has earned, His way, for the Holy spirit, to enter. Yes, maybe he did make a mistake. But maybe he repented. Maybe, God forgave him.
Aren’t we all sinners, who are saved by grace? We are all growing. On that vine, and if I can impress, that more then ever, to make us stop, and pray, and consider where we were, back then, maybe God would use us, and the anointing would be there.
But to criticize someone, seeing the fruit of God, and call it hocus pocus, is in my determination wrong. Because we all need God. We need to see Him manifested. As signs and testimonies, for His glory. Be careful in this. Dear one.
And please, if you are reading this, and you have done this, don’t feel bad, because many people, have brought this same thing, and subject to me, about the same person. I just want to say, I am not judging you. Thats not my place. Because you have brought it to me.
See, I am not getting in that trap, the devil, wants to set for you, or for me. I pray, God give me wisdom, to know the antics of the enemy. For even, the same persons….and believe me, I have heard stories, more then once. So your not the only one, who has said this and that about a believer, or a pastor, or even a famous person, to me. And I have probably told you the same thing. “It’s not my place to judge” Whether its true or not.
Yes, it may even be true. What you are saying, could very well be the truth, about someone. But I have heard more people speak “truth” and destroyed, peoples character, with truth, that turns into “Character assasination.” Do you want to stand before God for that?
So, I am very conscious, and careful, about this. For, the scripture, warns us, and says. Touch not my anointed. I Chronicles 16:21-22. He suffered no man to do them wrong yea, He reproved kings for their sakes. Saying, touch not Mine anointed and do my prophets no harm.
When you talk about Gods anointed one, with your words. Not only are you doing them harm, but yourself. Which one should take into great consideration.
I know, that the devil, has the intention, to use good, God fearing Christians, to get out of their love walk, and to judge. And there are quite a few scriptures on this subject, but we are not supposed to be judging by what we see, but really with our Lords righteousness, that which I call discernment. Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement. John 7:24.
But the goal of the enemy is accomplishing a couple of things here, if anything. One to get someone, out of their love walk, but to take their blessings away. By being disobedient to God.
And I am praying here for wisdom, with grace. Because I cannot fathom God in all His ways, I sense, when people do that, they open the door to the devil, for further, chaos. It may bring a curse. Because God says, He will bless those, who bless His people. But He will curse those, who curse His people. Genesis 12:3.
Thats law, but we live by Grace. So, we need to extend grace, to other leaders, or people, who may be Gods anointed. So, it still scares me to be honest, to talk about other people, to judge them. To come against any child of God.
Do you ever notice, when I share something about someone, here, I never say their name? I do that for a reason, because I do not want to hurt them. I may use the example of what they say or do. Even from others, who have hurt me. But, I never, ever, identify someone by their name, and say, this is what they did. Why? Because I do not want to judge someone, for the very reason, that whatever they may have done, they are Gods children.
And here I will interject, if you have done this, and you know you have, go to Gods throne, and repent. That will solve it, and give you wisdom.
Now concerning discernment. About a wolf in sheeps clothing, gee this is tough. But I want to extend grace. Do I identify them? Thats up to you. Not me. And there are so many misguided Christians, who listen to a Christian leader, and they liked that person. But then heard a bad word, and just judged them.
I know, I have, liked someone, yet, heard things about them, but it did not sway me. And I could be wrong. But I pray, if I err, I err, on the side of love.
And the rule of thumb, I try to always use, and again with grace. Is what they are saying? Is it based on the word of God? And as everyone knows, I look at the kind of word, they are using, is it based on the King James Bible? It is subjective. One must have that discernment. To the objective of God. And I don’t want to be legalistic, in this stance. For, God can use anything, to teach someone, but the purity, to me, should be from the King James, because it has not been corrupted, by mens hands. Thats just the way I feel. But that is between you and God. For yourself, I will just stop and say, pray about it. Ask God. What Bible you should use?
In any event, to further this, to bring this to a closing…..With understanding, are they taking just part of Gods word, and not giving the full gospel? Leaving the Holy spirit out? Limiting God? You need to see, what the leader is presenting. But before you talk about them. I wisely, recommend, pray about it. Go to God. We cannot lift people, on such a high pedestal, that when they fall, from grace, that we quit seeking God. Thats just wrong. We cannot, look at them as perfect. Because they are not. I am not. I know, I am not. But that makes me humble.
So, when I look at someone, I try to look at their fruit. The fruit, that God, over, and over identifies, as someone who is righteous in his sight. Yet knowing again, we all sin, we all come short of the glory of God. When people think they are beyond that, again, it is a characteristic of the devil. Pride. So, when I see pride in a leader. I walk away…….
For they are being self-righteous. Self-righteous people, scare me to be honest. Because its like they think they are beyond, any kind of correction, and will just slam your thoughts to the ground. Because they believe, they know better. So I just avoid people like that.
I think it can be a simple format, to follow, for discernment. If you are faced with a dilemma like that. Because even though, we may and are called to love all people. You do not want to subject yourself, to religion. Or to mens opinions. Or again, wolves in sheep’s clothing. Remember the scripture that says. Test the spirit. To see if they are of Christ. I John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
You need to remember, God says, let no man deceive you. And that can be a woman too. Matthew 24:24. For there shall arise false Christ’s and false prophets; and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
WARNING, WARNING, WARNING…..Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them. For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord; walk as children of light. Ephesians 5:6-8. I would read the rest of this chapter. Because we do need to know. We need to be careful.
You have to pray. And I recommend praying, before you talk about someone. You have to see what is this persons ministry based on? I know a lot of people, have specialty ministries, but if they leave out the truth, the gospel, and they water it down, either by their doctrine, or by simply picking and choosing, what they want. I don’t go for it. No matter how charismatic, they may seem, charming, etc. Even if they are nice to me.
I have to know, what God says. So, I am careful. To remember, again, the devil is the accuser, but what does God say. I have to know what God says more then anybody. Because He is the one we need to please. We have to be very, very careful, in these last days. I know I do, more then ever. I just sense it. How about you? Do you know, how to have peace, in the dilemma between the Christian, who is anointed? And the wolf in Sheep’s clothing?
If you have any ideas, about this, please share. Words of wisdom, guidance. But please do not mention anybodies name here, for I will not allow it to be posted. Whether they are a wolf in sheeps clothing or not. My objective, is to bring understanding. To bring God into this, so we don’t make a big mistake. Remembering as I close…..as the reminder. Touch not His anointed. God will take care of that wolf in sheeps clothing. For God is not mocked.
And for the record, I will say, I hate sin. I do not condone, someone who sins, just because, to be honest, I have not seen it, where I had to identify it or someone. In the body of Christ. But I do not wink my eye, at the ugly deeds of darkness, from anyone. Especially, if I saw, it was hurting someone. But I am not a judge. I just pray, I never have to point the finger, and say, to someone, or that about someone. Its always a choice. One must do, what they have to do. If God, instructs them. So, I will close with that.
And as I close, I hope you will forgive me, if I wrote about this, and you somehow or another feel betrayed, because you have shared something, about someone, and I did not want to get caught up in it, and I am writing about this subject. It is never my intention, to hurt any one. But I do see, the dilemma, in this……
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven. Luke 6:37.
Just my thoughts, with Love, Elena Ramirez
Father, we are human, we make mistakes. All of us do. Including me. How easy, it is for us to get caught up in gossip. Sometimes, unknowing. Sometimes, listening to someone, and not stopping them, from sharing. Lord, I do not want to be a hypocrite. For when we listen, we are a part of it too. And sometimes, yes, saying, tell me more. Oh Lord, forgive me, if I have been a part of judging someone. I know, I have hated, it, when I was judged. Yet, Father, we need wisdom. We need guidance, to know, the difference, between the wolf in sheep’s clothing, and your anointed ones. Because there are deceivers. Those who come in your name, and hurt your people. Lord, we really need discernment. I know, prayer, I know your word, will bring insight to us. Testing by your word. Help us, help the body of Christ. Because, sometimes, it seems like it goes way over board, and even Christian leaders, are a part of the judging in this. Oh God, it scares me, to be honest right now. In fear of you. Help us to walk in love with one another. So, we do not reap curses. But blessings, prompt us, to walk in love, to be kind with our words, to be prayerful, before we talk about people. I have seen so many situations, where people spill the beans about someone, and hurt them, deeply. Change us Lord, to be like Christ in this matter. In Jesus name. Amen
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