Picking Apart Joyce Meyers Thoughts on Tattoos…
By Christian Author Elena Ramirez
Joyce Meyer, is a prominent leader, in the world. Concerning matters of religion. As a Christian, that she claims to be, I find her thoughts, very disturbing.
I was once one of those who looked to her, as inspiration, because she found Christ. But if she found Him, her thoughts, show, she departed from Him. They show she has departed from His law, and they show she promotes hate, to others who do not agree with her. I base this on the following video: And if by some chance it mysteriously disappears, look it up on youtube. Joyce’s thoughts on tattoos.
I know she is well liked. I know, this may anger, or upset those that follow her, but I am to please God, not man, or any person, and so are you!
The King James scriptures tells us that there will be those, that are blind, and leading the blind. And this describes her exactly.
LET THEM ALONE; THEY BE BLIND LEADERS OF THE BLIND. AND IF THE BLIND LEAD THE BLIND, BOTH SHALL FALL INTO THE DITCH. MATTHEW 15:14 KJV.
Joyce Meyer, starts her sermon, in this video, on the comparison between holiness, and legalism.
This is what Gods word, says about holiness. She does not use this scripture, but I will so you can see what the King James says about holiness.
“And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.”
Isaiah 35:8 KJV
Her thought, right away, attacks religious people. Because they know having a tattoo is not accepted in the scriptures. She stereo types those that want to obey God. That know truth, that see the error of doing some things. And she calls it “legalism.”
She refers to Isaiah 44:5 and makes reference that its o.k. to have a tattoo, basically because God did it. Which is wrong, the scripture does not promote marking of the skin, it talks about just writing. Subscribing.
She says that it says; That it is tattooed; “I belong to the Lord”. It does not say that. See it from a Holy King James bible. But this is what it says:
“One shall say, I am the Lord’s; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the Lord, and surname himself by the name of Israel.”
Isaiah 44:5 KJV
It does not say tattoo, and she says it does. Please see this.
Again, she makes a reference, that God is promoting it, because He tattooed your name on his hand. The scripture does not say that. It says “graven” How can anybody compare how God writes?
BEHOLD I HAVE GRAVEN THEE UPON THE PALMS OF MY HANDS; THY WALLS ARE CONTINUALLY BEFORE ME. ISAIAH 49:16 KJV.
And to mock, what it says from one scripture to the next, is very dangerous. When she gives an example of God putting earrings, on one, group, but getting angry with the next. Where is the fear of God? To see, His ways are not our ways. She is judging God Himself, in His motives.
Leviticus 20:28 is a reference she gives, its not there. That scripture does not exist in my King James bible. Check. Look it up, listen to the video very carefully. Its not there as a point of reference. About making marks for the dead. That she gives.
That scripture reference is not specific to tattoos, but Leviticus 19:28 is:
“Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.”
Leviticus 19:28 KJV
A tattoo is a mark on the flesh.
I think what bothers me so very, very much, is first of all she is not using a Holy Bible. As a teacher, as a so called pastor of the word of God, her word is corrupt. And I won’t debate it, but her scripture references, are from bibles, that have been changed. Corrupted. She uses references of scripture, but they are not from the King James. As she quotes scripture. And if this does not show anybody, how wrong it is to use different bibles, then I don’t know what to say to you.
She admits, she picks what she wants, and leaves what she wants out of scripture. Listen to the video. She says it quickly but she admits she does that. And I am paraphrasing her, When she says: “we pick and choose what we want and leave out what we want.” Well she does, she leaves out truth, Gods truth.
She promotes getting a tattoo, and also promotes pushing “religious” people off the cliff. She states she is on the verge of getting a tattoo, and actually defying what Leviticus 19:28 states.
But to promote throwing people off of a cliff, and get it over with….That’s evil. That’s not love. To make religious demons mad? Who gave her that authority? It’s just wrong folks.
Does she not know her words are recorded in the book of life? It is for all of us. We will be judged.
The subliminal message, in there is to attack others, who do not think or believe like she does. And again, that is just pure evil. Christ told us, in John 13:34-35, that we would be known by the love we have for one another. This is what my King James bible says:
“A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.”
John 13:34-35 KJV
The whole motive of her subliminal message is to disobey God. To make herself the example to have pretty clothes, make up, and a tattoo.
In the King James scriptures it talks about vanity. And if she gets a tattoo, she is using herself for you to be disobedient in that. Because she is making herself even here in the video an example.
“And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the Lord had charged them, that they should not do like them.”
2 Kings 17:15 KJV
She talks about Laughing, well, the scripture says, it is better to be sorrowful. Then to have laughter. She talks about people and that they want to see you happy? Well, food for thought…What about what God wants? See, you need to see that, she totally disregards the incentive to try and please God. And that’s just wrong.
“Sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.”
Ecclesiastes 7:3 KJV
Her whole message, really does not promote, drawing close to God. To repent. To obey God, and His laws. To see the error of ones ways. It actually is defiant. Prideful, to say one’s ways, are right, and there is a great danger to that. Because God is not mocked.
See we really cannot have joy, or peace, if we are wicked. Or more importantly as God has called us, to be in holiness. There is no holiness, without Gods law. Without obedience. Without repentance. And a changing of ways.
A true sense of soul searching, with repentance, a hunger for God, and His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for our sins, to please Him, is the only one who can do that.
To even take her thoughts to heart, is so disturbing to me, because I have learned the hard way to get right with God, one needs to take His laws to heart.
Now the concept between religion, and relationship with Christ is this. Religion is rules, regulations, traditions, made by men, and groups. But if you are being legal, which God has given us His law, to follow, that is relationship. We can only have relationship with Christ, when we repent, obey God, and pray, and seek Him in that relationship. Pleasing God. Avoiding religion, well what she promotes, is Joyce Meyers religion.
I think what also bothers me, and that’s why I am writing about it, is basically she is promoting, dismissing the law, because it makes one act in legalism. And that’s like saying, I am right, you are wrong, to God Himself, and it’s a turn off to be obedient to God.
She challenges the “law” And that’s dangerous, these are Gods laws. He is legal. And holiness cannot be obtained, unless we follow Gods laws. So again, call me legal. Because I love His law. I see that it protects me. I see, that by trying, and yes I fail, but I see, that if I attempt to obey Him, He will extend grace. But you cannot disregard the law.
The thought, many Christians have is that the law, is abolished. That we are free from the law. God did not flip flop from the Old Testament, to the New Testament. He does not change. We do. The only law we are free from, is the law of sin and death. Not Gods commandments.
“For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.”
Romans 8:2 KJV
There are many scriptures that attest to being legal with God. And that if we even keep Gods law, we are happy.
PROVERBS 29:18 King James
WHERE THERE IS NO VISION, THE PEOPLE PERISH: BUT HE THAT KEEPETH THE LAW, HAPPY IS HE.
You know, I want to be happy in God’s law, so call me legalistic.
I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. (Psalms 40:8 KJV)
He tells us, not to forsake His law. So that means if you want to please God, you get legalistic. Because He is the example to follow.
For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law. (Proverbs 4:2 KJV)
The doctrine she teaches us, warns us according to King James scripture, is don’t follow people like that. I will not follow Joyce Meyers. I follow Christ. She is a terrible role model for Christ. And one should never follow a person any way.
No matter what, they propose. We are to follow Christ. This is why you need to get the truth yourself. Get a King James bible, and learn. What Gods laws are, yourself. Thats the only way you will grow.
And that is going to upset some, here, but I state it because its wrong.
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Romans 16:17 KJV)
I don’t judge anybody that might have a tattoo, I really don’t. I have met some very nice people who have tattoos, even family members. But if we really want to please God, we know what the scripture says.
We know, if we want to clean the slate, we repent. God won’t hold it against you, if you repent. But the direction she takes in this, is very self-serving. And that comes from hell itself. The devil was always about the devil. Self.
What she proposes… is that It is not humble, it is not remorseful, to know and admit, the error of one making a mistake, in even getting a tattoo. The scriptures, when they are truth, will bring light, to help us see the error of our ways. But I see nothing like that, from her message.
And its sad. I don’t judge her, but I am called to warn, even the righteous. Who think this is right.
Its not right folks, its wrong. And if you think I am judging. Read Ezekiel 33 from a King James it says we are to warn. I am warning here. I am loving my brothers and sisters in Christ, so they know the difference. Love warns. You would too, if you saw someone near the fire. The fire of hell itself. If you knew the truth. Her thoughts are very disturbing.
For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life: (Proverbs 6:23 KJV
In conclusion, knowing, that the truth sets us and let the redeemed of the Lord say so. I have been redeemed, so I say so.
I may very well get challenged by some of you, who support her, love her, and you know what you need to do, is pray for her. Arguing with me, will not resolve this. I know what the Holy Scriptures says.
But I won’t debate or argue about this with anybody. I will ignore comments on this. I know that I just have to write this. My motive is to please God. And if it really helps someone to see the truth, then praise be to God. I praise God anyway…
PSALMS 107:20 KING JAMES
LET THE REDEEMED OF THE LORD SAY SO, WHOM HE HATH REDEEMED FROM THE HAND OF THE ENEMY.
JOHN 8:32 KJV.
AND YE SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.
Just ask yourself, with what I have shared, and what you can see, from the video yourself, why would anyone promote to you, that you disobey God? Look at the fruit folks, this is how you will know them.
Matthew 7:20 WHEREFORE BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM.
Feel free to share this link you might just open someones eyes, to truth.
In Christ, by Elena Ramirez
I feel led to write about communication. With one another, with God, with others, and as a Christian, I feel I am more indebted to try and communicate.
Most of my problems I have had in life, or with others, are due to not getting communication. Where things may seem to be fuzzy, or where someone, may take the incentive, but will do something and not communicating. Or where something is assumed.
Or where I was expected to do something, but I did not know. So because communication was not reinforced, things fell through, or did not get accomplished.
Its so vital, to communicate, and I think thats why I have since, an early age, tried to articulate my thoughts, actually by writing them down, and communicate through writing, because I have not always been confident, or been a great orator. But that changed when I began writing my thoughts, as a reference. So I overcame that to build up my self esteem.
In business, I learned to document my thoughts, and situations, because you need a back up sometimes. To determine, what was communicated, and if it was not, then I had my notes to refer to. To show, this was what was communicated.
I used to work for the phone company. And I used to joke to some, that the phone company, was responsible for providing great phone service to others, for having the tool as the phone. But inside the ranks of the company, there were times, communication was not available, and things were not understood, and the protocol, for even sharing information was difficult. To receive or share. Whose who? Who do I need to contact, to communicate with?
Recently, I have had situations arise, where communication was vague, or where someone, actually did not communicate with me, and misunderstandings did occur. And I am not going to give the enemy fuel, if I remain silent. I have my part. And I see how the enemy can only come to destroy, when communication is not available.
I have a neighbor, who just recently overstepped, her authority in a matter, because she did not communicate a problem with us, and tried to rectify a problem on her own, concerning our fence. If she had only come to us, and stated there was a problem with the fence, and asked for our assistance, we would have been glad, to help. Or, if she had asked for permission. But she did neither, and now consequently, the situation has gotten so bad, by her lack of communication, that we are at odds with each other. And its sad.
With my friends, who I love dearly, things like that can also occur, if one person, is assuming something, but the communication is not clear, feelings can get hurt.
Or with family. Who I love dearly. With my hubby, or son, we often have little powwows, so we can get to the root of a problem but we communicate, so we all understand each other. And I will just say here, everyone, needs that, to feel important or understood. Then we pray to God, because we always need to communicate to our Lord.
So I try, really hard to communicate. And I also ask for feedback, to see if my message was conveyed, and understood. When one does not make the effort to do that, things, can fall through the cracks.
I really feel like God is telling us, we have a responsibility to communicate. Is it easy? Not always. Confrontation, can make it seem like war. But the enemy would rather have us shut up, then to communicate. Even if I do not agree with someone, I so appreciate, the effort when communication is presented. It helps.
But when someone goes silent, its mind boggling, because you just don’t know. So yes, I can be bold, and confront, if I need communication in a matter. Some things, to be honest, I don’t want to know, but if I am included in a matter, to do something, yes communicate with me. Its a service we do for one another, but it takes two parties to do it.
I am pretty fair, when I know the facts, but its so frustrating, if you are put on the spot, yet someone did not say, or communicate, this is what I expect. These are the rules.
Life is funny, and people like to do their own thing but do we really look as well to see, what God says? Not man, but God, first. I love my King James bible, because Gods Holy word, is there to give me answers. God has done His part by communicating and giving us His Holy word. And I just will say it here, He does not give us something only to think about but if its there, its a commandment. But He provides, always.
….Answers to why things happen, but also what God expects. Sometimes you have to connect the dots, but communicating with God, is so important. Prayer. He is the King of Kings, He established His thoughts, but if I want answers I have to talk to Him, I have to search my Bible, I have to see and examine my part and heart in this matter. Do I communicate, did I communicate my part effectively?
And with others. Sometimes, I have to apologize. Or repent, and to God, I need to do this often. Practically every day, because I am not perfect. In communication. Sometimes, I have to say, I failed to understand your thoughts, so I reacted this way.
But when someone does not apologize or communicate as well, it is frustrating to say the least. When I have communicated, but the communication was not returned. Or understood.
Maybe thats why I am writing this. Because communication is so important. But it is a two way street. One cannot just communicate, and work at something, while someone does not offer communication in return.
Well, I hope this brings insight, like I say, I am an opened book in many ways, and there are some things I don’t spill the beans about, or blab or communicate about, because it could be misunderstood, but if I try to be honest, and truthful with others and God, it does seem to make things easier.
Communication always has to be worked out.
This is what the Bible says about this. I am glad it does. Because more then anything I want to please my Lord. Thank you…Father.
HEBREWS 13:16 KJV
BUT TO DO GOOD AND TO COMMUICATE FORGET NOT: FOR WITH SUCH SACRIFICES GOD IS WELL PLEASED.
Blessings, and love,
Don’t you want to grow? Don’t you want to be glad? I know I do…. and if we look for the light in Gods Holy King James word, we can see the light.
Words, they may be skimmed over, or not even taken to heart, if you are in darkness, you might not see them.
But if you take to heart what Christ said, that He is the light of the world, and you let His word, be a lamp unto your feet, and a light unto your path you could find that light to grow.
THY WORD IS A LAMP UNTO MY FEET, AND A LIGHT UNTO MY PATH. PSALMS 119:105. KJV.
I AM COME A LIGHT INTO THE WORLD, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH ON ME SHOULD NOT ABIDE IN DARKNESS. JOHN 12:46. KJV.
I want to use the analogy of a flower, and how it needs light. Do you notice there are some plants, that thrive on light? If you put them in a dark place, they won’t grow. They won’t become the best they can be. They may even die. Sadly.
Well there are instructions, to certain plants so they can grow. So they can thrive, and bloom, and become beautiful. To bring beauty, to express who God is, to shine….
Friends, let me just say this, God created, each and every one of us, to shine, for His glory. We need KJV instruction to grow.
And if we are allowing darkness, to invade our spirits, whatever that may be. We will not grow.
Many people, think I am odd, because as an example, I won’t see certain movies. I won’t allow that darkness, to enter my “eye-gate.”
Evil movies, or even movies, that come in the name of the Lord, but they are not based on King James scriptures. They take the concept of God, and totally distort that. That brings darkness.
To me, thats deception, and it comes from the enemy. To bring darkness. To confuse, to distort, what Father says, in His King James word. So I won’t watch them.
THE LIGHT OF THE BODY IS THE EYE: IF THEREFORE THINE EYE BE SINGLE, THY WHOLE BODY SHALL BE FULL OF LIGHT. BUT IF THINE EYE BE EVIL, THY WHOLE BODY SHALL BE FULL OF DARKNESS. IF THEREFORE THE LIGHT, THAT IS IN THEE BE DARKNESS, HOW GREAT IS THAT DARKNESS! MATTHEW 6:22-23. KJV.
We sometimes, do not realize the ramifications of our compromising, or our allowing of such things in our spirit. Another reason, why I won’t go to a psychic, or a fortune teller, or read, my horoscope. For these things bring darkness. And God totally rejects these entities. He wants us to be holy. He wants us to seek Him, and only Him. Anything that is not of God, is darkness…
We so have to guard our spirits. We so have to repent, for even doing something that may offend God in this. For they bring curses. They bring darkness. We live in this world, but friends, God has told us not to be a part of it.
To be a part of it is to be an enemy of God.
I just want to inspire you to seek light. Seek truth, seek the good, be the good, be light, as Christ is light. To others, and for yourself.
To be glad, that above scripture in that photo, says so much. But how important is it for us to really sow light? How important is it for us, to try and be righteous? How important is it for us, to try and be upright in our hearts? When I read this, I see light is sown for gladness.
I so want the joy and gladness, that only God can give? Don’t you?
Just my thoughts today. In love, I want to inspire you. Let us stay away from sin, or anything else that brings darkness.
This is why, again as well, that I warn you don’t use those corrupted bibles. For they have been compromised, changed, added to, and deleted. After God warned us. They are not light. They are not holy. They are part truth, and part lie.
And if you look at them for light, you may see a counterfeit light. Seek the true light. This does affect us, And our discernment, our understanding, our sense of right and wrong, will be diminished if darkness is present. We must seek the light.
We must, depart from anything that brings darkness. Even friends, folks…. there so much to this, concerning, the light….but this is why the world, is lost. This is why atheists are doomed for hell, because they refuse to see the light. Don’t be like them.
THEN JESUS SAID UNTO THEM, YET A LITTLE WHILE IS THE LIGHT WITH YOU. WALK WHILE YE HAVE THE LIGHT, LEST DARKNESS COME UPON YOU: FOR HE THAT WALKETH IN DARKNESS KNOWETH NOT WHITHER HE GOETH. JOHN 12:35. KJV.
Much love, Elena Ramirez