PICKING APART JOYCE MEYERS THOUGHTS ON TATTOOS ~ By Christian Author Elena Ramirez


IMG_3640.jpgPicking Apart Joyce Meyers Thoughts on Tattoos…
By Christian Author Elena Ramirez

Joyce Meyer, is a prominent leader, in the world. Concerning matters of religion. As a Christian, that she claims to be, I find her thoughts, very disturbing.

I was once one of those who looked to her, as inspiration, because she found Christ. But if she found Him, her thoughts, show, she departed from Him. They show she has departed from His law, and they show she promotes hate, to others who do not agree with her. I base this on the following video:  And if by some chance it mysteriously disappears, look it up on youtube.  Joyce’s thoughts on tattoos.

I know she is well liked. I know, this may anger, or upset those that follow her, but I am to please God, not man, or any person, and so are you!

The King James scriptures tells us that there will be those, that are blind, and leading the blind. And this describes her exactly.

LET THEM ALONE; THEY BE BLIND LEADERS OF THE BLIND. AND IF THE BLIND LEAD THE BLIND, BOTH SHALL FALL INTO THE DITCH. MATTHEW 15:14 KJV.

Joyce Meyer, starts her sermon, in this video, on the comparison between holiness, and legalism.

This is what Gods word, says about holiness. She does not use this scripture, but I will so you can see what the King James says about holiness.

“And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.”
Isaiah 35:8 KJV

Her thought, right away, attacks religious people. Because they know having a tattoo is not accepted in the scriptures. She stereo types those that want to obey God. That know truth, that see the error of doing some things. And she calls it “legalism.”

She refers to Isaiah 44:5 and makes reference that its o.k. to have a tattoo, basically because God did it. Which is wrong, the scripture does not promote marking of the skin, it talks about just writing. Subscribing.

She says that it says; That it is tattooed; “I belong to the Lord”. It does not say that. See it from a Holy King James bible. But this is what it says:

“One shall say, I am the Lord’s; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the Lord, and surname himself by the name of Israel.”
Isaiah 44:5 KJV

It does not say tattoo, and she says it does. Please see this.

Again, she makes a reference, that God is promoting it, because He tattooed your name on his hand. The scripture does not say that. It says “graven” How can anybody compare how God writes?

BEHOLD I HAVE GRAVEN THEE UPON THE PALMS OF MY HANDS; THY WALLS ARE CONTINUALLY BEFORE ME.  ISAIAH 49:16  KJV.  

And to mock, what it says from one scripture to the next, is very dangerous. When she gives an example of God putting earrings, on one, group, but getting angry with the next. Where is the fear of God? To see, His ways are not our ways. She is judging God Himself, in His motives.

Leviticus 20:28 is a reference she gives, its not there. That scripture does not exist in my King James bible. Check. Look it up, listen to the video very carefully. Its not there as a point of reference. About making marks for the dead.  That she gives.

That scripture reference is not specific to tattoos, but Leviticus 19:28 is:

“Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.”
Leviticus 19:28 KJV

A tattoo is a mark on the flesh.

I think what bothers me so very, very much, is first of all she is not using a Holy Bible. As a teacher, as a so called pastor of the word of God, her word is corrupt. And I won’t debate it, but her scripture references, are from bibles, that have been changed. Corrupted. She uses references of scripture, but they are not from the King James. As she quotes scripture.  And if this does not show anybody, how wrong it is to use different bibles, then I don’t know what to say to you.

She admits, she picks what she wants, and leaves what she wants out of scripture. Listen to the video. She says it quickly but she admits she does that. And I am paraphrasing her, When she says: “we pick and choose what we want and leave out what we want.” Well she does, she leaves out truth, Gods truth.

She promotes getting a tattoo, and also promotes pushing “religious” people off the cliff. She states she is on the verge of getting a tattoo, and actually defying what Leviticus 19:28 states.

But to promote throwing people off of a cliff, and get it over with….That’s evil. That’s not love. To make religious demons mad? Who gave her that authority? It’s just wrong folks.

Does she not know her words are recorded in the book of life?  It is for all of us.  We will be judged.

The subliminal message, in there is to attack others, who do not think or believe like she does. And again, that is just pure evil. Christ told us, in John 13:34-35, that we would be known by the love we have for one another. This is what my King James bible says:

“A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.”
John 13:34-35 KJV

The whole motive of her subliminal message is to disobey God. To make herself the example to have pretty clothes, make up, and a tattoo.

In the King James scriptures it talks about vanity. And if she gets a tattoo, she is using herself for you to be disobedient in that. Because she is making herself even here in the video an example.

“And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the Lord had charged them, that they should not do like them.”
2 Kings 17:15 KJV

She talks about Laughing, well, the scripture says, it is better to be sorrowful. Then to have laughter. She talks about people and that they want to see you happy? Well, food for thought…What about what God wants? See, you need to see that, she totally disregards the incentive to try and please God. And that’s just wrong.

“Sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.”
Ecclesiastes 7:3 KJV

Her whole message, really does not promote, drawing close to God. To repent. To obey God, and His laws. To see the error of ones ways. It actually is defiant. Prideful, to say one’s ways, are right, and there is a great danger to that. Because God is not mocked.

See we really cannot have joy, or peace, if we are wicked. Or more importantly as God has called us, to be in holiness.  There is no holiness, without Gods law.  Without obedience.  Without repentance.  And a changing of ways.

A true sense of soul searching, with repentance, a hunger for God, and His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for our sins, to please Him, is the only one who can do that.

To even take her thoughts to heart, is so disturbing to me, because I have learned the hard way to get right with God, one needs to take His laws to heart.

Now the concept between religion, and relationship with Christ is this. Religion is rules, regulations, traditions, made by men, and groups. But if you are being legal, which God has given us His law, to follow, that is relationship. We can only have relationship with Christ, when we repent, obey God, and pray, and seek Him in that relationship. Pleasing God. Avoiding religion, well what she promotes, is Joyce Meyers religion.

I think what also bothers me, and that’s why I am writing about it, is basically she is promoting, dismissing the law, because it makes one act in legalism. And that’s like saying, I am right, you are wrong, to God Himself, and it’s a turn off to be obedient to God.

She challenges the “law” And that’s dangerous, these are Gods laws. He is legal. And holiness cannot be obtained, unless we follow Gods laws. So again, call me legal. Because I love His law. I see that it protects me. I see, that by trying, and yes I fail, but I see, that if I attempt to obey Him, He will extend grace. But you cannot disregard the law.

The thought, many Christians have is that the law, is abolished. That we are free from the law. God did not flip flop from the Old Testament, to the New Testament. He does not change. We do. The only law we are free from, is the law of sin and death. Not Gods commandments.

“For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.”
Romans 8:2 KJV

There are many scriptures that attest to being legal with God. And that if we even keep Gods law, we are happy.

PROVERBS 29:18 King James
WHERE THERE IS NO VISION, THE PEOPLE PERISH: BUT HE THAT KEEPETH THE LAW, HAPPY IS HE.

You know, I want to be happy in God’s law, so call me legalistic.

I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. (Psalms 40:8 KJV)

He tells us, not to forsake His law. So that means if you want to please God, you get legalistic. Because He is the example to follow.

For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law. (Proverbs 4:2 KJV)

The doctrine she teaches us, warns us according to King James scripture, is don’t follow people like that. I will not follow Joyce Meyers.  I follow Christ.  She is a terrible role model for Christ.  And one should never follow a person any way.

No matter what, they propose.  We are to follow Christ.  This is why you need to get the truth yourself.  Get a King James bible, and learn.  What Gods laws are, yourself.  Thats the only way you will grow.

And that is going to upset  some, here, but I state it because its wrong.

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Romans 16:17 KJV)

I don’t judge anybody that might have a tattoo, I really don’t. I have met some very nice people who have tattoos, even family members. But if we really want to please God, we know what the scripture says.

We know, if we want to clean the slate, we repent. God won’t hold it against you, if you repent. But the direction she takes in this, is very self-serving. And that comes from hell itself. The devil was always about the devil. Self.

What she proposes… is that It is not humble, it is not remorseful, to know and admit, the error of one making a mistake, in even getting a tattoo. The scriptures, when they are truth, will bring light, to help us see the error of our ways. But I see nothing like that, from her message.

And its sad. I don’t judge her, but I am called to warn, even the righteous. Who think this is right.

Its not right folks, its wrong. And if you think I am judging. Read Ezekiel 33 from a King James it says we are to warn. I am warning here. I am loving my brothers and sisters in Christ, so they know the difference. Love warns. You would too, if you saw someone near the fire. The fire of hell itself.  If you knew the truth. Her thoughts are very disturbing.

For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life: (Proverbs 6:23 KJV

In conclusion, knowing, that the truth sets us and let the redeemed of the Lord say so. I have been redeemed, so I say so.

I may very well get challenged by some of you, who support her, love her, and you know what you need to do, is pray for her.  Arguing with me, will not resolve this.  I know what the Holy Scriptures says.

But I won’t debate or argue about this with anybody.  I will ignore comments on this.  I know that I just have to write this.  My motive is to please God.  And if it really helps someone to see the truth, then praise be to God.  I praise God anyway…

Thank you.

PSALMS 107:20 KING JAMES

LET THE REDEEMED OF THE LORD SAY SO, WHOM HE HATH REDEEMED FROM THE HAND OF THE ENEMY.  

JOHN 8:32  KJV.  

AND YE SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.

Just ask yourself, with what I have shared, and what you can see, from the video yourself, why would anyone promote to you, that you disobey God?  Look at the fruit folks, this is how you will know them.  

Matthew 7:20  WHEREFORE BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM.  

Feel free to share this link you might just open someones eyes, to truth.  

In Christ, by Elena Ramirez

 

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SUBMIT TO GOD AS THE AUTHORITY AND BE NOT DECEIVED BY FALSE BROKEN PROPHETS ~ BY CHRISTIAN AUTHOR ELENA RAMIREZ


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When I see a broken building, I see, a foundation that was not built on Christ, and His truth. False prophets are broken, but they can be healed too. My book “HOW TO HAVE FAITH WITH A TRUE AND LIVING GOD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, CAN SHOW YOU THESE PRINCIPLES, TO HAVE FAITH, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RELIGION. (Rules and regulations made by groups, people) http://howtohavefaith.wordpress.com

The body of Christ is crippled, and sadly, no one is seeing this.  No one calls it out as wrong, and nobody is taking a stand.  Well I will.  I will, because I love my Lord Jesus.  I will, because there are souls at stake.  I will, because people, are not seeing the truth.  They are compromising who they are in Christ.  They have listened to so many who have distorted truth, and have made their own “religion.”  I will because I will stand before God.  I will write it, and say it is wrong!

 The following statement, is not my statement.  But because this was shared by a prominent ministry I am using it as an example.  These are their words, word, for word.  It was not taken out of context, or in part.  Let the record show it, for what it is.  

Don’t pray and ask God to fight Satan for you. You are the one in authority. Take your responsibility and speak directly to Satan yourself and stand your ground firmly. He will flee!

I have to be honest, when I saw this statement, I felt the hair on my neck stand up!  How dare they say this kind of nonsense.  Who is the authority?  They are talking about?  Who is their audience?  Is it a born again Christian?  Is it someone who has given their heart to Christ?  Is it someone who is quoting a compromised Bible?  Is it someone who does not know the truth?

 Why would they phrase it like that?  Don’t pray and ask God to fight satan for you?  Whose side are they really on?  Thats what I am seeing to question?

 Where is the loyalty to God? The submission?  I don’t even capitalize the name of the enemy.  But they did.  That statement, really says a lot, about the stance they take.  Responsibility, they threw that out of the window!  Responsibility is knowing Gods word, and seeking Him, in every aspect.  Including fighting the devil!  

The authority, they talk about makes me wonder, is it pride, that thinks they don’t have to pray to God? They can take care of it themselves?

Friends, the King James Bible says, “Pray without ceasing!” Pray!!!! I Thessalonians 5:17. This is how we get victories, this is how we win battles, but we have to pray, they actually say don’t pray and ask God. These are their words not mine!

Yes, there are certain, things God has given me authority over.  But the scripture is very clear, in times, of battle, with the enemy, the battle is the Lords.  And the submission must be given to God, to have Gods protection.  This statement does not address that.   Yes there is power, in the name of Jesus, there is authority.  But this statement did not say that either!

No, it is not me, it is God, that has that authority. and He gives me yes, authority. Yes, as His child, yes, as His servant.  But I still have to submit to Him, first.  Then I can have full assurance, by the name of Jesus. They don’t say that in this statement.  This is what the scripture says.  And this is why, I question ministries, that say stupid things like this.  

I think what bothers me the most about this, is that, it is questionable, and vague.  So I question it.  No matter what the intention was of that ministry, it is a “Mixed Signal” and that is confusing to whoever would read that!

But I never question Gods holy word, from the King James Bible, and this is what we are called to do to defeat the devil.  Along with putting on the armor of God.   

Submit yourselves therefore to God.  Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.  James 4:7.

To me it is stupid.  And usually, I am gracious, to give some the benefit of the doubt.  But when a high profile ministry says something like that, and also excludes truth, it makes me wonder…What happened to them?  I once enjoyed watching them on television.

What Bible are they using?  This is not the first time, I saw discrepancies, that I have challenged, and even wrote to them about because of the Bible they used, but this actually got me righteously angry!  I am not judging them, I am seeing the fruit, and that is not of God….

Did you know in Galatians 1, it talks about those who pervert the gospel.  Read it from a King James Bible.  It says they are ACCURSED! I don’t want anything to do with a ministry that perverts Gods word!

They left out that part, that is so important to God.  Submitting to Him.  Then resisting the enemy.  Then the enemy would flee.  Why?  Because when we submit to God, He is on the case!  No devil can stand against God.  But our part is to submit to God!

So many souls, read that, nonsense, from this high profile ministry, which I will not name.  But how are they to know the truth, unless they know Gods word, themselves?  The reactions on that post, was yes, and amen.  How the blind, are blinded, because the enemy has deceived them.  Trusting these “so-called” prophets.  No wonder, so many are crippled.   But this statement is so empty, so vague, and yes, so disingenuous, that it makes me think.  Sadly…..

It makes me want to scream to Christians, to beware, to be careful not to be deceived.  Christ told us let no man deceive you.  Matthew 24:4-5. See it from a King James.

We have to know the truth.  Christians, and whoever is reading this, believer or non-believer.  I implore you.  Seek the truth!  Seek the true and living God.  Seek God and pray.  Know the scriptures yourself.  Know a King James Bible, so you have the anointing.  The holiness, of a Bible, that has not been changed, deleted words, or added words.  Use a Holy King James Bible!

If you are in a spiritual battle, because of sin, repent, seek God, submit to God, and His truth, and He will guide you!  But always pray to God, always be humble in His sight!  Repentant!  Because of what Christ did on that cross!

It is sad.  This time, in my life, there are very few pastors, or ministries, that I can relate to.  The body of Christ should be united.  But we are not all on the same page, scripture speaking, and understanding with discernment the true and holy word.  Because the word has been changed, and distorted, and because people do not know the difference. People are being deceived.  We have to see this.

 I pray, for my brothers and sisters in Christ.  I pray, to shout it out, to warn souls, to save souls, to be careful.  This affects so many things, concerning who we are in Christ, and what I see right now, is a church, a body of believers, that do not believe the same things, and I pray God does a new thing.  If He uses me, so be it.  

If you believe, as I do, about this, I would love to hear from you!

But I see those, who should know truth, and instead, they say strange things like this.  Is it pride?  Is it wealth, and power, in the body of Christ that has caused them to speak such strange things?  I don’t know.  I won’t point the finger and I won’t name them, because thats not who I am, but I am seeing this, and all I can do is, seek God.  

 But I am alarmed.  

As I submit to God, as the authority, I will not be deceived by false prophets.  

Just my thoughts today…..Elena Ramirez